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Sherman 4 by pete-c-89 Sherman 4 by pete-c-89
Yet another Sherman outside a museum.
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aq13ed Featured By Owner May 20, 2014
No, it most likely a M4A1(76)E2W.  The 17 pounder in the Firefly's had a rounded muzzle brake.  The hull is cast not welded making it most likely an M4A1.  It has the larger turret for the 76mm gun making it most likely a M4A1(76).  The suspension is the horizontal Volute Spring Suspension type making it the M4A1(76)E2W.  Most of the modified suspensions were made after the war and sold to other countries.  The American 76mm, very similar in performance to the 17 pounder.  But this is not a firefly.  Three of the things that mark the Firefly is the long gun with a rounded muzzle brake not the square brake as seen here.  A box on the back of the turret for the radio because the breach and recoil used up what little space there was in the turret.  Last is the suspension.  They had the Vertical Volute Spring suspension.  While most of the 1,700-2,100 Firefly's made were based on the M4A3 and M4A4 because they were the most numerous tanks lend-leased to the British.  The American 76mm armed Shermans were on the way but it was a long supply line.

By the way the British used the American made Sherman because it was better than any other allied (British) tanks in numbers, mechanical reliability and armor.   
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13aceofspades13 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2010
this Sherman appears to have the more powerful gun.
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SuzumeGhost13 Featured By Owner Oct 30, 2010
its the Sherman FIREFLY...British had to figure out how to outgun or match up the German Tiger tank...hence the Sherman firefly

tiger tanks fire a 80mm round...so the allies mounted up a anti-tank gun to the Sherman..
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pete-c-89 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Oh yeah, true! I can't admit knowing much about the different Sherman variants, but that week in France I saw countless Shermans, all of them slightly different in different places.

Like this one: [link] is quite different at the front, and has hard rubber tracks (right?). I'll have to look into Sherman history a bit, they're among the most iconic tanks there are.
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13aceofspades13 Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2010
there are so many different variants of Sherman, with so many different applications, the original gun for the Sherman was much shorter, and did not have that muzzle on the barrel that this tank has.

i dont know all the variants either, but i know they built a few shermans with thicker armor, or in this case, a slightly more powerful gun.
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SuzumeGhost13 Featured By Owner Nov 20, 2010
its the Sherman FIREFLY...British had to figure out how to outgun or match up the German Tiger tank...hence the Sherman firefly

tiger tanks fire a 80mm round...so the allies mounted up a anti-tank gun to the Sherman..
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13aceofspades13 Featured By Owner Nov 23, 2010
wait, didnt the tiger have a 88mm cannon....

the M-26 Super Pershing is my favorite... it was a pershing tank, with added frontal armor, and a more powerful 90mm gun. the M-26 Was the answer to the tiger, it had just as powerful a gun as the tiger, but better frontal armor, it was just as thick with greater slope...

the super persing was the american opponent of the King tiger, with thicker armor up frunt with a additional armor plate, with improved slope, the longer 90mm gun allowed probably a higher muzzle velocity, but with only two built it made no impact.
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SuzumeGhost13 Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2010
I stand corrected :D

according to the books that I read...Pershing is way more expensive than the Sherman...so..nuff said..
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Rob-Cavanna Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2010
perfect shot!
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pete-c-89 Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2010  Hobbyist Photographer
Hah, thanks! I wasn't even going to upload this one since it didn't look too special to me (which is why it's in the 'scraps' folder, but I suppose i'll change that), but i'm surprised people seem to like it, it's one of my most favourited photos :confused:
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